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Black holes whose cores weaken gravity ring higher and longer in three quantum-gravity calculations
Davide Batic and colleagues find quantum-gravity black hole cores ring up to 12% higher where gravity weakens and 25% lower where it strengthens. The opposite signs could in principle let a ringdown tell the models apart, though each figure is for a model pushed to its limit.
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What happened
- At the extreme point where its two horizons merge, the Hayward black hole rings 9.5% higher than an Einstein black hole of equal mass, and its ringing lasts 28% longer.
- The Planck star, in the model where gravity grows stronger near the center, also loses its main tone 21.6% faster than the Einstein case.
- The team solved for the tones with a Chebyshev spectral method in 200-digit arithmetic that reproduces known Einstein black hole tones to six decimal places.
- The third paper, in Physics of the Dark Universe, completes a series begun in The European Physical Journal C and Physical Review D.
Why it matters
- capability Because the tones form at the light ring outside the horizon, physics at the hidden center can reach a measurable signal, and opposite signs give a ringdown, in principle, a way to sort weakening-gravity cores from strengthening ones.
- constraint Switching the core-response model shrinks the Hayward pitch shift by about a third, so any forecast of signal size built on these numbers inherits that spread even where the direction holds.
- exposure Asymptotic-safety black holes now carry a stated prediction of higher, longer-lived tones, so a well-measured ringdown shifted the other way would count against them at these parameters.
- constraint With every figure taken at a model's extreme or at one Planck mass, none of them yet sets a sensitivity target for a working gravitational-wave detector.
A core hidden behind a horizon can change a sound made outside it because the ringing takes shape at the light ring, the radius at which light can orbit the black hole [13]. Roughly speaking, a tone's pitch depends on the speed at which waves circle that ring, and its decay on the rate at which they leak away from it [13]. According to the account one of the authors wrote for phys.org, gravity that weakens near the center is also a little weaker out at the light ring [14].
Over the past year Davide Batic and a co-author, with Fabio Scardigli on the first two papers, computed these tones for three black holes reshaped by quantum gravity [1]. The models differ in what happens to gravity's strength. Several approaches let Newton's constant depend on distance, and in asymptotic safety, an idea due to Steven Weinberg, gravity weakens at the shortest distances [15]. The Bonanno-Reuter black hole, built from asymptotic safety in 2000, switches gravity off at its center, has a smooth core where the singularity would be, and gains an inner horizon [16]. The Hayward black hole has no singularity. One number sets the size of its core, and at a critical value of 32/27 its two horizons merge [17].
The first paper went the other way. Its gravity grows stronger near the center, and the singularity survives, spread over a sphere at the edge of a Planck-density core [18]. The results, one of the authors wrote, fall into a simple pattern: "where gravity weakens at short distances, the black hole rings higher and longer; where it grows stronger, it rings lower and dies away sooner" [3].
Each comparison is against an Einstein black hole of the same mass [4]. A tone that fades 22.1% more slowly has a damping rate 0.779 times Einstein's, so it lasts 1/0.779, or about 1.28 times as long, matching the 28% reported for the Hayward case [19]. The same conversion gives the Bonanno-Reuter ring about 29% more time [20] and cuts the Planck star's to about 82% of the Einstein figure [21].
"Two checks make me trust this contrast," the same author wrote [9]. The first uses electromagnetic waves, whose tones depend on the geometry alone, and they shift the same way [7]. The second concerns something light does not do. Gravitational waves also shake whatever the core is made of, and the geometry alone does not describe that response [8]. The team adopted one model of it. With the other model used in recent studies, the Hayward pitch rises by about 6% instead of 9%, still upward [8].
The numerics were built for the extreme cases the main figures come from. The usual WKB approximation pictures the barrier around the black hole as a smooth hump that the waves run into [11]. The team instead mapped the whole region outside the black hole onto a finite interval, wrote the wave as a sum of polynomials and solved the resulting matrix eigenvalue problem [10]. When the Hayward black hole's two horizons merge, the equations change character at the horizon, so the authors wrote a separate version of the problem to follow it all the way [12].
I think the direction of the shift is well supported for these three models, because it survived a change of wave type and a change of core physics [7][8]. The Hayward and Bonanno-Reuter figures are each taken at the model's extreme point, and the Planck star's at one Planck mass [4][5][6]. The account does not estimate how large the shifts would be for black holes formed in observed mergers, or whether a detector could tell a core apart from a small difference in mass.
What to watch
- Calculations of the same tones for core sizes well below each model's extreme point, showing how quickly the shifts shrink.
- Whether the opposite-sign pattern survives when these black hole models are given spin.
- Ringdown analyses of detected mergers precise enough to bound pitch shifts near the 10% level these extreme models predict.
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- [1]
Over the past year, the phys.org author and colleague Davide Batic, with Fabio Scardigli for the first two papers, computed quasinormal-mode tones for three black holes whose centers are reshaped by ideas from quantum gravity.
- [2]
The third paper, published in Physics of the Dark Universe, completes the series; the first appeared in The European Physical Journal C and the second in Physical Review D.
- [3]
where gravity weakens at short distances, the black hole rings higher and longer; where it grows stronger, it rings lower and dies away sooner
- [4]
At its extreme point, the Hayward black hole rings 9.5% higher than Einstein's black hole of the same mass, and its tone fades 22.1% more slowly, so the ringing lasts 28% longer.
- [5]
The Bonanno-Reuter black hole at its own extreme point rings 12.0% higher and fades 22.3% more slowly than an Einstein black hole of the same mass.
- [6]
The Planck star of one Planck mass has a main tone 25.0% lower that fades 21.6% faster than an Einstein black hole.
- [7]
Electromagnetic waves, whose tones depend on the geometry alone, go the same way: for the extreme Hayward black hole their main tone rises by 8.0% and fades 17.9% more slowly.
- [8]
Gravitational waves also shake whatever the core is made of, which the geometry alone does not describe; the team adopted one model of that response, and with the other model used in recent studies the pitch rises by about 6% instead of 9%, in the same direction.
- [9]
Two checks make me trust this contrast.
- [10]
The team used a Chebyshev spectral method that maps the whole region outside the black hole onto a finite interval, writes the wave as a sum of polynomials and turns the problem into a large matrix eigenvalue problem solved in 200-digit arithmetic; on Einstein's black hole it gives back the known tones to six decimal places.
- [11]
The usual shortcut, the WKB approximation, treats the barrier that waves meet around the black hole as a smooth hump.
- [12]
When the Hayward black hole's two horizons merge, the equations change character at the horizon, so the team wrote a separate version of the problem to follow it all the way.
- [13]
The ringing is made outside the horizon, around the light ring, the distance at which light can circle the black hole; to a first approximation the pitch of a tone is set by how fast waves go around this ring and its fading by how quickly they slip off it.
- [14]
Where gravity weakens near the center, it is also slightly weaker at the light ring.
- [15]
Several approaches to quantum gravity suggest that Newton's constant depends on distance; in asymptotic safety, an idea due to Steven Weinberg, gravity weakens at the very shortest distances.
- [16]
In the black hole Alfio Bonanno and Martin Reuter built from asymptotic safety in 2000, gravity switches off at the center, a smooth core replaces the singularity, and a second, inner horizon appears.
- [17]
The Hayward black hole is a simple model without a singularity whose form also arises in some asymptotic-safety constructions; one number sets the size of its core, and at a critical value, 32/27, its two horizons merge.
- [18]
In the first paper, Newton's constant follows the quantum correction to Newton's law and gravity grows stronger near the center; the singularity survives but is spread over a sphere, the edge of a core of Planck density, still hidden behind the horizon.
- [19]
A 22.1% lower damping rate gives a ringing time about 1.28 times the Einstein value, consistent with the reported 28% longer ringing for the Hayward black hole.
- [20]
A 22.3% lower damping rate gives the Bonanno-Reuter black hole a ringing time about 1.29 times the Einstein value, roughly 29% longer.
- [21]
A 21.6% faster fade gives the Planck star a ringing time about 82% of the Einstein value.
- [22]
Switching the core-response model shrinks the Hayward pitch shift from about 9% to about 6%, roughly a third smaller.
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- phys.orgThree quantum-inspired cores leave opposite fingerprints on the ringing of black holes
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