Clearing Lido's buyback counter would lift modeled LDO purchases about 8% on unchanged profit
Lido DAO contributors are debating whether to tie LDO buybacks to the 2027 grant budget or reset a counter that stood at minus $564,230.96 on Oct. 13. A reset would lift modeled purchases about 8% without improving profit, CryptoSlate reported.
The Investor · Invest desk
Key figures: Lido's NEST spending counter stood at minus $564,230.96 at the Oct. 13 checkpoint. NEST compares staking revenue with a daily baseline of $109,589. Purchases face a $10 million cap over fixed 365-day windows.
| Figure | Value | Note | Claim |
|---|---|---|---|
| NEST spending counter, Oct. 13 checkpoint | −$564,230.96 | 8 | |
| Daily revenue baseline | $109,589 a day | 6 | |
| Cap per 365-day window | $10,000,000 | 10 |
What happened
- Contributor Kuzmich proposed the budget link on Oct. 7, and on Oct. 9 Jenya_K backed weighing it for the 2027 grant request while saying the figure has to be set through bottom-up planning.
- NEST compares measured staking revenue with a daily baseline of $109,589, about $40 million a year.
- The allocator held about 41.12 stETH on Oct. 13, and its indexed history shows one 41-stETH top-up, on Aug. 28.
- In the Oct. 1 simulations under the current rule, mean purchases were about $2.3 million and the median was zero.
- Lido's unaudited first-half accounts show a $1.6 million operating surplus that a $6 million Kelp-related one-off turned into a $4.4 million total loss.
Why it matters
- constraint The $10 million cap over 365-day windows is 25% of the $40 million baseline, so neither a reset nor a budget link can push annual purchases past that ceiling.
- contradiction The forum's stated assumption and the model's code disagree on expenses, so the profit column cannot be used to choose a threshold until the model is rerun with expenses equal to each budget.
- decision A budget link needs one baseline to link to, and the $43.8 million and $41 million labels differ by $2.8 million; neither equals NEST's $40 million threshold.
The counter is further from zero than its face value suggests. Only half of each day's gap to the baseline is credited to it [7], so if the rule works the same in both directions, clearing the minus $564,230.96 [8] takes revenue about $1.13 million above the baseline in total [22]. At $109,589 a day [6], that excess equals roughly 10.3 days of baseline revenue [23].
Zero is the first of two gates, since spending needs both counter capacity and funded stETH [10]. At the $2,679.84 starting ETH price the forum model uses [12], the allocator's 41.12 stETH [9] is worth about $110,000 [24], or 2.2 days of spending at the $50,000 daily cap [25] (this assumes stETH trades near ETH, which the report does not say). A reset removes only past constraints [11], so the wallet stays where it is.
Profit is thin as well. The $1.6 million first-half operating surplus was about 10% of the $15.9 million in net DAO revenue [29]. The report puts $1.4 million of treasury income and a $60.9 million asset-price effect in a bridge outside the profit statement [18], and Kuzmich's Oct. 11 follow-up tested profits without assumed treasury income [20].
CryptoSlate traces a mismatch to the budget model's profit comparison. The forum says actual expenses match the approved budget, but in the code a forecast expense curve is multiplied by the ratio of each budget to $43.8 million [15]. Before that scaling, the curve comes to about $39.8 million of expenses, and in the row labeled $30 million it comes to $27.3 million [16], which leaves that row $2.7 million short of the forum's own assumption [26]. The corrected table holds the revenue paths and purchase rules constant and sets expenses equal to each threshold [21]. The report text available to us breaks off before its results.
In our view the budget link is the sounder option, because it ties purchases to spending the DAO chooses, and a reset ties them to nothing. The counter-case is that a link is only as good as the budget behind it. Jenya_K said the figure has to be set through bottom-up planning [5], and a $30 million budget, one of the model's rows, would sit $7.7 million under the $37.7 million of full-year expenses the first-half report projects [28]. A low figure approved to lift purchases would be a reset by another route.
We would be wrong if the approved 2027 figure lands well under reported spending.
What to watch
- The corrected profit table, with expenses set equal to each threshold, and whether it changes how the thresholds rank.
- The 2027 grant request: which baseline it uses ($43.8 million or $41 million) and whether the amount is built bottom-up.
- The next NEST checkpoint after Oct. 13: whether the counter moves from minus $564,230.96 and whether the allocator receives funds beyond the 41-stETH top-up of Aug. 28.
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- [1]
Lido's DAO is debating whether its 2027 grant budget should guide automated purchases of the LDO governance token.
- [2]
The Oct. 7 discussion puts two choices on the table: link NEST's revenue threshold to approved spending, or periodically clear the buyback engine's negative spending counter.
- [3]
NEST had made no purchases funded by its allocator when checked on Oct. 13.
- [4]
Annual resets lift modeled purchases about 8% without improving underlying profit.
- [5]
Kuzmich proposed the budget link on Oct. 7; in an Oct. 9 response Jenya_K supported considering it in the 2027 grant request but said the amount must come from bottom-up planning.
- [6]
Under Lido's implemented specification, NEST compares measured staking revenue with a daily baseline of $109,589, approximately $40 million a year.
- [7]
Half the difference between measured revenue and the baseline feeds a running spending counter; revenue below the baseline subtracts from it, and stronger revenue must repair the shortfall before purchases can start.
- [8]
The latest captured checkpoint on Oct. 13 recorded a counter of minus $564,230.96 and a skipped allocation.
- [9]
The allocator held about 41.12 stETH when checked on Oct. 13; its complete indexed transfer history showed one 41-stETH top-up on Aug. 28.
- [10]
Any future spending must satisfy sufficient counter capacity and funded stETH, and faces a $50,000 daily cap, a $10 million cap over fixed 365-day windows, and a $1,000 allocation minimum.
- [11]
Genuine cost cuts could leave more income available for buying, while a reset would only remove past constraints.
- [12]
Kuzmich's Oct. 11 model uses 1,000 ETH price paths over 12 months from Oct. 1, beginning at $2,679.84 with 61% annual volatility and no expected arithmetic price drift.
- [13]
In the published Oct. 1 simulations under the current rule, mean purchases were about $2.3 million, but the median was zero.
- [14]
Lower budget-linked thresholds produce larger purchases in that model.
- [15]
The forum says actual expenses match the approved budget, while the model code scales a forecast expense curve by each budget divided by $43.8 million.
- [16]
That expense curve implies about $39.8 million of expenses across the modeled year before scaling, and only $27.3 million in the row labeled $30 million.
- [17]
Lido's unaudited first-half accounts show $15.9 million in net DAO revenue; Foundations expenses of $14.3 million left an operating surplus of $1.6 million, and a $6 million Kelp-related one-off turned the total result into a $4.4 million loss.
- [18]
The report places $1.4 million of treasury income and a $60.9 million asset-price effect in its treasury bridge, outside the profit-and-loss statement; Jenya_K warned that treasury operations can include losses.
- [19]
The 2026 grant request presents a $43.8 million baseline, and the first-half report references $41 million and projects full-year expenses of $37.7 million; the cited materials do not explicitly reconcile the two baseline labels, and neither is interchangeable with NEST's $40 million revenue threshold.
- [20]
Kuzmich's Oct. 11 follow-up corrected the treatment of staking rebates and tested profits without assumed treasury income.
- [21]
The corrected table holds the published revenue paths and purchase rules constant but sets actual expenses equal to each threshold; profit excludes treasury income and is measured before purchases.
- [22]
Revenue must beat the baseline by about $1.13 million in total to clear the Oct. 13 counter, because only half the difference is credited.
- [23]
That excess equals roughly 10.3 days of baseline revenue.
- [24]
At the model's $2,679.84 starting ETH price, 41.12 stETH is worth about $110,000 (assuming stETH tracks ETH).
- [25]
About $110,000 is roughly 2.2 days of spending at the $50,000 daily cap.
- [26]
The row labeled $30 million carries expenses $2.7 million below the forum's stated assumption that expenses equal the budget.
- [27]
The $10 million cap over 365-day windows is 25% of the roughly $40 million annual baseline.
- [28]
A $30 million budget would sit $7.7 million below the $37.7 million of full-year expenses the first-half report projects.
- [29]
The $1.6 million first-half operating surplus is about 10% of $15.9 million net DAO revenue.
- [30]
The $43.8 million and $41 million baseline labels differ by $2.8 million.
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