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Judge Davila lets Apple depose OpenAI's hardware chief and read its interview files early

Judge Edward Davila ordered OpenAI to produce interview records for Apple candidates and approved three depositions in Apple's trade secrets suit. OpenAI has five days for material already collected and 14 for the rest, TechCrunch reported.

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Photograph accompanying Judge Davila lets Apple depose OpenAI's hardware chief and read its interview files early
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The order sets deadlines for OpenAI and Apple alike Days allowed for each step: OpenAI's interview-document production and Apple's narrower 'Apple Originated Information' definition.

Bar comparison of deadlines in days. OpenAI has 5 days to turn over interview materials it has already collected and 14 days for other interview materials. Apple has 5 days to consult the defendants and submit a narrower definition of Apple Originated Information.

The order sets deadlines for OpenAI and Apple alike (Days allowed to complete each step)
ItemValueClaim
OpenAI: already-collected files5 days10
OpenAI: other interview files14 days10
Apple: narrow its definition5 days9

What happened

  • The order also covers every forensic image the defendants have already collected on the subject of Apple's claims, including those examined by OpenAI's forensic expert.
  • Apple also gets all LINE conversations between Chang Liu and Alyssa Peng dating from January 1, 2026.
  • According to 9to5mac, the depositions extend past the individuals to corporate representatives of OpenAI and io Products.
  • The judge refused to expedite OpenAI's R&D documents on metal finishes, power management and battery functionality, sending them to regular discovery.
  • On requests tied to "Apple Originated Information," Apple has five days to consult the defendants and submit a narrower definition.

Why it matters

  • exposure The recruiting trail is open, not only the named defendants' messages: deep-dive decks and interview summaries that mention Apple parts are in the production set.
  • cost OpenAI and io must gather files and prepare witnesses on a compressed schedule, in support of Apple's push for a preliminary injunction.
  • constraint Apple's injunction case will lean on recruiting and communications evidence for now, because OpenAI's device-level R&D files stay in regular discovery.
  • precedent In our view, one order that treats interview scripts and technical deep-dive decks as early-production material gives other companies hiring from a rival a likely first-requests list.

Any checklist or script that OpenAI's hardware recruiters used with an Apple candidate is now on a court-ordered production list [4]. So are the Technical Deep Dive presentations that summarize or record those interviews, and any document that refers to Apple technology or parts [4]. That tracks Apple's allegations. Apple says the defendants improperly obtained information from Apple employees during recruitment interviews [2], and that former Apple employees at OpenAI coached others on what to bring to their own interviews [14].

OpenAI had argued that Apple's demands were overly broad and that expedited discovery was unnecessary because the regular process was about to begin [18]. On the interview materials, the court agreed with Apple that they should be expedited, TechCrunch reported [10].

The two reports size Apple's win differently. 9to5mac said Davila granted most of Apple's requests and rejected or postponed the rest [15]. TechCrunch said he did not greenlight all of them [16]. "Most" is 9to5mac's characterization.

TechCrunch reported that the denials went past the product-specific R&D files. The judge also turned down broader requests, including access to OpenAI's hardware research and to information about what former employees created while working there [12]. He left Apple room to narrow those requests and try again [13]. On the postponed set, Davila found Apple's definition of "Apple Originated Information" "amorphous as currently defined" [8].

In our view the order sorts evidence by conduct. What recruiters did and said comes early; what the product is made of waits [4][7]. That fits Apple's stated purpose. It wants early discovery to gauge the extent of the alleged misappropriation and to support a preliminary injunction against further embedding of alleged trade secrets in OpenAI's hardware work [17]. Neither report describes a finding on whether any trade secret was taken.

For a team that hires from a rival, the order suggests a two-axis sort of every interview artifact. One axis is whether the document steers an interview, like a script, or records one, like a debrief deck. The other is whether it names the other company's technology or parts. The order reached documents of both kinds and called out any that refer to Apple technology or parts [4]. We'd expect a rival's lawyers to ask first for the document that does both: records an interview and names parts.

Our recommendation is to keep scripts generic and keep parts-level detail out of debriefs. The tradeoff is real. Interviewers lose a shortcut for probing depth, and the hiring manager who has to defend a hire on Friday gets a thinner record to point to.

What to watch

  • Whether Apple submits a narrower definition of "Apple Originated Information" within its five days, and whether Davila then takes up the postponed requests.
  • Whether OpenAI meets the five-day and 14-day production deadlines, and when Liu, Peng and Tan are deposed.
  • Whether Davila rules on Apple's preliminary injunction request once the early discovery comes in.

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  1. [1]

    Judge Edward Davila granted some of Apple's requests for expedited discovery in its trade secrets lawsuit against former employees, OpenAI, and io Products.

  2. [2]

    Apple accuses the defendants of improperly obtaining information from other Apple employees during recruitment interviews.

    Reported Supported Source: 9to5mac, describing Apple's allegations2 sources— create a free account to open themView cited source
  3. [3]

    The order requires the defendants to turn over all forensic images they have already collected in connection with the subject matter of Apple's claims, including those examined by OpenAI's forensic expert.

Sources

3 independent publishers whose own reporting we read for this story.

  1. 9to5mac.com

    1 article · October 13, 2026

    Apple wins early access to OpenAI documents and employee testimony in trade secrets lawsuit
  2. mezha.net

    1 article · October 13, 2026

    Суд дозволив Apple прискорено отримати частину доказів у справі проти OpenAI
  3. news.bloomberglaw.com

    1 article · October 13, 2026

    Apple v. OpenAI: a US judge partly grants Apple's motion for expedited discovery, ordering OpenAI to hand over forensic images of devices and other documents
  4. techcrunch.com

    1 article · October 13, 2026

    Judge orders OpenAI to turn over hiring records in Apple trade secrets case

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