Judge Davila lets Apple depose OpenAI's hardware chief and read its interview files early
Judge Edward Davila ordered OpenAI to produce interview records for Apple candidates and approved three depositions in Apple's trade secrets suit. OpenAI has five days for material already collected and 14 for the rest, TechCrunch reported.
The Product Desk
Bar comparison of deadlines in days. OpenAI has 5 days to turn over interview materials it has already collected and 14 days for other interview materials. Apple has 5 days to consult the defendants and submit a narrower definition of Apple Originated Information.
Days allowed to complete each step In days
| Item | Value | Claim |
|---|---|---|
| OpenAI: already-collected files | 5 days | 10 |
| OpenAI: other interview files | 14 days | 10 |
| Apple: narrow its definition | 5 days | 9 |
What happened
- The order also covers every forensic image the defendants have already collected on the subject of Apple's claims, including those examined by OpenAI's forensic expert.
- Apple also gets all LINE conversations between Chang Liu and Alyssa Peng dating from January 1, 2026.
- According to 9to5mac, the depositions extend past the individuals to corporate representatives of OpenAI and io Products.
- The judge refused to expedite OpenAI's R&D documents on metal finishes, power management and battery functionality, sending them to regular discovery.
- On requests tied to "Apple Originated Information," Apple has five days to consult the defendants and submit a narrower definition.
Why it matters
- exposure The recruiting trail is open, not only the named defendants' messages: deep-dive decks and interview summaries that mention Apple parts are in the production set.
- cost OpenAI and io must gather files and prepare witnesses on a compressed schedule, in support of Apple's push for a preliminary injunction.
- constraint Apple's injunction case will lean on recruiting and communications evidence for now, because OpenAI's device-level R&D files stay in regular discovery.
- precedent In our view, one order that treats interview scripts and technical deep-dive decks as early-production material gives other companies hiring from a rival a likely first-requests list.
Any checklist or script that OpenAI's hardware recruiters used with an Apple candidate is now on a court-ordered production list [4]. So are the Technical Deep Dive presentations that summarize or record those interviews, and any document that refers to Apple technology or parts [4]. That tracks Apple's allegations. Apple says the defendants improperly obtained information from Apple employees during recruitment interviews [2], and that former Apple employees at OpenAI coached others on what to bring to their own interviews [14].
OpenAI had argued that Apple's demands were overly broad and that expedited discovery was unnecessary because the regular process was about to begin [18]. On the interview materials, the court agreed with Apple that they should be expedited, TechCrunch reported [10].
The two reports size Apple's win differently. 9to5mac said Davila granted most of Apple's requests and rejected or postponed the rest [15]. TechCrunch said he did not greenlight all of them [16]. "Most" is 9to5mac's characterization.
TechCrunch reported that the denials went past the product-specific R&D files. The judge also turned down broader requests, including access to OpenAI's hardware research and to information about what former employees created while working there [12]. He left Apple room to narrow those requests and try again [13]. On the postponed set, Davila found Apple's definition of "Apple Originated Information" "amorphous as currently defined" [8].
In our view the order sorts evidence by conduct. What recruiters did and said comes early; what the product is made of waits [4][7]. That fits Apple's stated purpose. It wants early discovery to gauge the extent of the alleged misappropriation and to support a preliminary injunction against further embedding of alleged trade secrets in OpenAI's hardware work [17]. Neither report describes a finding on whether any trade secret was taken.
For a team that hires from a rival, the order suggests a two-axis sort of every interview artifact. One axis is whether the document steers an interview, like a script, or records one, like a debrief deck. The other is whether it names the other company's technology or parts. The order reached documents of both kinds and called out any that refer to Apple technology or parts [4]. We'd expect a rival's lawyers to ask first for the document that does both: records an interview and names parts.
Our recommendation is to keep scripts generic and keep parts-level detail out of debriefs. The tradeoff is real. Interviewers lose a shortcut for probing depth, and the hiring manager who has to defend a hire on Friday gets a thinner record to point to.
What to watch
- Whether Apple submits a narrower definition of "Apple Originated Information" within its five days, and whether Davila then takes up the postponed requests.
- Whether OpenAI meets the five-day and 14-day production deadlines, and when Liu, Peng and Tan are deposed.
- Whether Davila rules on Apple's preliminary injunction request once the early discovery comes in.
Clarity's read
What the record supports and how the coverage leans. The claims behind it follow.
Reality
- Evidence72
- Adoption
- Insufficient
- Hype gap+8
- Incentives
- Insufficient
- Confidence74
Claim ledger
Ranked by verification strength, evidence, and original report placement.
- [1]
Judge Edward Davila granted some of Apple's requests for expedited discovery in its trade secrets lawsuit against former employees, OpenAI, and io Products.
- [2]
Apple accuses the defendants of improperly obtaining information from other Apple employees during recruitment interviews.
- [3]
The order requires the defendants to turn over all forensic images they have already collected in connection with the subject matter of Apple's claims, including those examined by OpenAI's forensic expert.
- [4]
The order requires production of all documents used to guide or conduct interviews of Apple candidates for OpenAI's Consumer Hardware Products Group, including checklists, guides, instructions, manuals and scripts, and documents, including Technical Deep Dive presentations, that summarize or memorialize the content of those interviews or refer to Apple technology or parts.
- [5]
The order requires production of all LINE conversations between Chang Liu and Alyssa Peng since January 1, 2026.
- [6]
Davila authorized Apple to depose Liu, Tang Tan and Yu-Ting 'Alyssa' Peng, as well as corporate representatives from OpenAI and io Products.
- [7]
Davila rejected Apple's request for expedited access to OpenAI's research and development documents on metal finishes, power management and battery functionality, and decided these will be handled through regular discovery.
- [8]
Davila postponed decisions on requests involving 'Apple Originated Information', finding Apple's definition 'amorphous as currently defined'.
- [9]
Apple has five days to consult with the defendants and submit a narrower definition of 'Apple Originated Information' if it wishes to renew those requests.
- [10]
The court gave OpenAI five days to turn over materials it has already collected and 14 days for any other materials related to the interview-document request, agreeing with Apple that these documents should be expedited.
- [11]
The judge approved depositions for Chang Liu, Alyssa Peng and OpenAI's chief hardware officer, Tang Yew Tan, all three of whom are former Apple employees.
- [12]
The judge denied several of Apple's broader discovery requests, including access to OpenAI's hardware research and information about what former employees created while working at OpenAI.
- [13]
The denial is not final: the judge left the door open for Apple to narrow its requests and try again.
- [14]
Apple said that former Apple employees at OpenAI coached others considering leaving Apple for OpenAI on what information to bring to their interviews.
- [15]
9to5mac wrote that Davila granted most of Apple's requests, rejected others, and postponed a decision on those he considered overly broad.
- [16]
TechCrunch wrote that Davila did not greenlight all of Apple's requests for expedited access to OpenAI documents and messages.
- [17]
Apple asked for a preliminary injunction to prevent the defendants from further embedding alleged trade secrets in hardware development, and sought expedited discovery to understand the extent of the alleged misappropriation and support that request.
- [18]
OpenAI opposed the motion, arguing that Apple's demands were overly broad and that expedited discovery was unnecessary because the regular process was about to begin.
Sources
3 independent publishers whose own reporting we read for this story.
- 9to5mac.comApple wins early access to OpenAI documents and employee testimony in trade secrets lawsuit
1 article · October 13, 2026
- mezha.netСуд дозволив Apple прискорено отримати частину доказів у справі проти OpenAI
1 article · October 13, 2026
- news.bloomberglaw.comApple v. OpenAI: a US judge partly grants Apple's motion for expedited discovery, ordering OpenAI to hand over forensic images of devices and other documents
1 article · October 13, 2026
- techcrunch.comJudge orders OpenAI to turn over hiring records in Apple trade secrets case
1 article · October 13, 2026
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