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Apple proposed commissions of up to 15% on purchases made outside the App Store, then asked for a settlement conference. Epic says a conference would not help, so the rate stays in litigation.
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Epic Games has told the court it does not believe a court-ordered settlement conference would meaningfully advance a deal with Apple, days after Apple filed a proposed structure that would charge commissions of up to 15% on in-app purchases completed through alternative payment systems in the US [1][2][3]. That keeps the 15% figure where it began: a position filed by one party in remand proceedings, not a rate any court or counterparty has adopted [9].
The sequencing is the tell. Apple submitted the commission proposal and, on the same day, a motion asking Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers to order the parties into a settlement conference, arguing that "discussions of a potential settlement in a confidential, non-adversarial setting would increase the likelihood of reaching a practical resolution that could obviate the need for prolonged remand proceedings" [2][4][5].
Epic's answer is not a flat refusal. It says it "has been, and remains today, willing to entertain any direct approach from Apple with a serious settlement proposal that would introduce competition and benefit all developers," but that a referral to a settlement conference would not meaningfully advance those prospects "at this juncture," and that it will participate in good faith if ordered to attend [6][1][7]. The decision now sits with Gonzalez Rogers; Apple asked that any conference be supervised by Magistrate Judge Joseph C. Spero [8][9].
Why the venue matters more than it sounds: the fight in this case has repeatedly been about who the injunction covers, not only what it costs. Apple has argued that because Epic's suit is not a class action, the injunction should not apply broadly to other developers, and during one appeal argued that developers wanting similar relief could file their own lawsuits [10][11]. The Ninth Circuit rejected that narrowing, finding that limiting relief to Epic and its affiliates would not give Epic the complete relief it seeks [12]. A confidential conference is the one forum where a developer-wide remedy could be traded for an Epic-specific one without the rest of the market seeing the exchange. 9to5Mac notes that Apple's motion does not say what it might offer, and reads the request as an attempt to reach terms attractive to Epic while limiting concessions to Epic alone [13][14].
For teams already wiring external checkout, the practical position is unattractive. The number in circulation is a ceiling of up to 15% submitted by Apple, reported without the full conditions attached, and it is being contested rather than negotiated into a standard [2][3][15]. Modelling take rates, refund handling and price ladders against it means modelling against a litigation artifact that a judge can reject, modify, or leave in place while appeals continue.
Three things to watch. Whether Gonzalez Rogers refers the case to Spero, since that determines whether the next round of terms is drafted in public filings or behind confidentiality [8][9]. Whether Apple makes the direct approach Epic says it would still entertain, which would move the process outside the court's schedule [6]. And whether any resulting terms are written to apply to all developers or only to Epic, the distinction Epic put in its own response and the one the Ninth Circuit has already refused to concede to Apple [6][12].
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Epic Games filed a response to Apple's request that the court order settlement talks in the App Store lawsuit, stating it "does not believe the prospects of such settlement would be meaningfully advanced through referral to a settlement conference at this juncture."
Last Thursday, Apple submitted its proposed commission structure for in-app purchases made outside of the App Store system in the US.
Under Apple's proposed structure, Apple would charge commissions of up to 15% on purchases completed through alternative payment systems.
On the same day as the commission filing, Apple submitted another motion asking Judge Gonzalez Rogers to order the parties to attend a settlement conference.
Apple's motion said that "discussions of a potential settlement in a confidential, non-adversarial setting would increase the likelihood of reaching a practical resolution that could obviate the need for prolonged remand proceedings."
Epic's response states that the company "has been, and remains today, willing to entertain any direct approach from Apple with a serious settlement proposal that would introduce competition and benefit all developers."
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Primary filings quoted, single publisher
The procedural core - Apple's proposed commission structure, its settlement-conference motion, and Epic's response - is supported by direct quotation of party filings in one report, and the report publishes Epic's full response. But the cluster has a single publisher with no independent corroboration, no docket citation, and the analytical portion is explicitly the publisher's own expectation.
No adoption signal reported
The supplied material reports only court filings and a pending referral decision. There is no effective commission policy, no developer uptake of external payment systems, and no disclosed usage, deployment, or pricing change in force, so adoption cannot be measured.
Slightly overstated
Framing is mostly proportionate: the report labels the 15% figure a proposal and quotes both parties accurately. The modest overstatement comes from presenting a concrete rate that no ruling has adopted, and from the editorial projection that Apple would confine concessions to Epic, which the same report concedes is unsupported because Apple's motion does not indicate what it might offer.
Adversarial filings plus Apple-focused outlet
Nearly all substance originates in the litigants' own court filings, where Apple has an interest in narrowing the injunction and preserving a commission and Epic has an interest in broad developer-wide relief. The publisher is an Apple-focused outlet that appends commerce links to product listings and adds its own speculative framing, so both the sourcing and the venue carry visible interest.
Moderate on procedure, low on outcome
Confidence in the filed facts is reasonably high because they are quoted from the filings and the full Epic response is published, but the cluster rests on one publisher, adoption is unmeasurable, and the commercially decisive question - what rate and scope survive remand - is unresolved and partly addressed through speculation.
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