Waymo borrows $5 billion in the same week Firmus abandons a $5 billion IPO at a $30 billion valuation
Waymo closed a $5 billion term loan, its first debt, a day before Firmus pulled an IPO that would have valued the Nvidia-backed firm near $30 billion. Lenders took 5.25 points over the benchmark from a company selling paid rides; IPO buyers would not pay about 590 times revenue for data centers that are 5% built.
Context for builders, not their beat.
Two bars. Firmus was valued at US$10.5 billion less than three months earlier. Its IPO would have valued the company at US$30 billion.
| Measure | Value | As of | Claim |
|---|---|---|---|
| Earlier valuation | US$10.5 billion | 14 | |
| IPO valuation | US$30 billion | 14 |
What happened
- Waymo closed a $5 billion term loan on Thursday, the Alphabet-owned autonomous vehicle company's first debt financing.
- PIMCO, Blackstone and Sixth Street took lead syndicated roles; Capital Group, Loomis Sayles and T. Rowe Price joined as significant participants; Apollo, Blue Owl, Diameter Capital Partners, Franklin Templeton, Fidelity Management & Research, HPS Investment Partners and Oaktree rounded out the lender group; Goldman Sachs was sole lead bookrunner.
- Waymo began negotiating the debt financing in early September, at that point targeting more than $3 billion; the final size grew to $5 billion.
- Lenders were set to receive a spread of more than 500 basis points above the benchmark rate, with the debt expected to carry no credit rating.
- The Waymo loan priced at 5.25 percentage points over the benchmark rate, according to people familiar with the matter cited by Bloomberg.
Why it matters
Waymo's lenders agreed on a spread. People familiar with the matter told Bloomberg the loan priced at 5.25 percentage points over the benchmark rate [5], and Quartz reported the debt was expected to carry no credit rating [4]. Waymo began negotiating in early September with a target of more than $3 billion and finished at $5 billion [3], so the book grew by as much as two-thirds over the opening ask [33]. Goldman Sachs was sole lead bookrunner, with PIMCO, Blackstone and Sixth Street in the lead syndicated roles and ten other firms, including Capital Group, T. Rowe Price, Apollo and Oaktree [2].
Firmus's would-be shareholders were asked for a multiple. The company planned to raise about $5 billion at A$11 a share, a price that valued it at around $30.6 billion, CNBC reported [15]. The Taipei Times put the figure at $30 billion, up from $10.5 billion less than three months earlier [14], a step-up of about 2.9 times [29]. Against revenue of $51 million in the 2026 financial year [17], $30 billion is about 590 times sales [30]. Against capacity the ratio is harder still. The pipeline is 912 megawatts, of which 46 megawatts has been built [18], about 5% [31], so the offer valued Firmus at roughly $650 million per megawatt built [32].
At 5.25 points on the full $5 billion, Waymo's spread alone comes to about $262.5 million a year before the benchmark rate is added [34]. Firmus's revenue for its entire 2026 financial year was about a fifth of that [35].
What the lenders were underwriting
The loan goes to a company that already sells rides. Waymo carried more than 500,000 fare-paying trips a week across 14 cities as of early September and is targeting 1 million a week across 20 cities by the end of the year [8]. It had roughly 4,000 vehicles in domestic service in May [9].
Beneath the loan sits a large equity layer. In February Waymo raised $16 billion at a $126 billion valuation, and Alphabet kept its position as majority investor [7]. The loan equals about 4% of that valuation. Because it is Waymo's first debt [1], the private mark would have to fall by roughly 96% before the $5 billion exceeded it on paper [36].
None of the three reports on the loan describes collateral or covenants, so whether the lenders hold a claim on Waymo's software, its fleet or only its promise to pay is not on the record. The known risks are public. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened an investigation into how Waymo robotaxis behave around school buses and another after one hit a child near a school in Santa Monica [10]. The National Transportation Safety Board opened its own school-bus investigation earlier this year [10]. We think a margin of more than 500 basis points on an unrated loan [4] is the price of those open investigations and of a borrower with no debt history [1].
Steve Fieler, Waymo's chief financial officer, wrote in a blog post: "Our strong momentum has enabled us to complement our equity financing with debt, providing additional financial flexibility to strengthen our balance sheet" [6]. The loan arrives eight months after the February round [7] and adds $5 billion of cash without adding shareholders at the $126 billion mark [1]. Quartz places it beside Uber's 2016 debut in debt markets, a $1.15 billion leveraged loan raised ahead of its IPO [11]. Waymo's loan is about 4.3 times that size [40].
What the IPO buyers declined
Firmus's board blamed the market. "Having considered recent market volatility and prevailing market conditions, the board determined that the terms on which the offer could proceed would not appropriately reflect the strength of the company's business and long-term growth outlook," the company said [13].
UniSuper's chief investment officer blamed the price. "So much has to go right to justify the valuation," John Pearce said in an investor update published Thursday [20], the day before Firmus withdrew [12]. The Taipei Times reported that part of the difficulty was persuading buyers of the steep rise in value for a company without a proven track record [17], and Bloomberg reported that some investors worried existing shareholders would sell soon after a debut [21].
"Investors just weren't prepared to pay a sky-high price up front for capacity that's still largely on the drawing board," said Josh Gilbert, eToro's lead analyst for APAC and the Middle East [19]. "The timing hasn't helped either, with higher yields lifting borrowing costs and shrinking what investors will pay today for earnings that sit years down the track," he said [19].
The board's account and Pearce's make different predictions. If volatility was the problem, something near $30 billion should clear once markets settle [14]. If valuation was the problem, the next price Firmus accepts will sit well below it, closer to the $10.5 billion of its August round [16].
Higher yields reached both deals. Waymo's lenders take theirs as a benchmark plus 5.25 points [5]; Firmus's prospective shareholders would have taken theirs as a discount on earnings years away, in Gilbert's description [19]. Credit for AI is getting dearer too. Nearly $500 billion of new debt has been priced this year to fund AI infrastructure, the Taipei Times reported, and rising financing needs and rates have pushed up credit-insurance costs and weakened tech debt performance [25].
The private round and who is already in it
Firmus said it "will now pursue capital from the private markets and consider alternative public and private market options" [27]. Bloomberg, as relayed by Quartz, reported that the company and its advisers are talking to current investors about a round of $2 billion to $3 billion that could blend equity and debt, and that it is unclear whether Nvidia would take part [22].
Existing investors had already planned to supply roughly half of the IPO's roughly $5 billion [23], or about $2.5 billion [37]. The private range brackets that figure. In our view the money that failed to arrive this week was the other half, or rather the roughly $2.5 billion Firmus needed from buyers who were not already shareholders [37]. The round now under discussion looks largely like the insiders' share in a new structure.
A $2 billion to $3 billion round is 40% to 60% of the IPO target [38], set against 866 megawatts of pipeline still to build [39]. The Taipei Times described Firmus's business model as hinging on a steady influx of fresh capital [24]. The company has raised in steps: $505 million led by Coatue Management in April, then $2 billion pledged by a group including Nvidia and Blackstone, with Jane Street among its backers [28]. With the listing application withdrawn [12], the build schedule now depends on the size and timing of private rounds.
Firmus does hold a contract a lender can examine. It signed agreements with Meta last month to provide GPU computing capacity at its Southeast Asian data centers [26]. We'd expect a debt-heavy blend to lean on those agreements, and its terms will show how much credit one large customer can support at a company with $51 million of annual revenue [17].
Blackstone appears in both deals, as a lead lender to Waymo [2] and a backer of Firmus's $2 billion August round [16]. The IPO asked a different set of buyers to accept Firmus at nearly three times that August price [29].
Where this could be wrong
Three outcomes would change this account. Firmus could close its private round at or near $30 billion with a real share from new investors. The board's volatility explanation would then hold, and the public objection would look like one about insider selling after listing [21] more than value. The lenders may also have been underwriting Alphabet's majority ownership [7] more than Waymo's own business, in which case the loan says little about how credit treats a standalone technology company. And if Waymo misses its 1 million weekly rides target [8] or the federal investigations widen [10], lenders will have set the 5.25-point spread [5] too tight.
We think the two deals sorted on what a buyer could count on the day of pricing and how much equity sat beneath them. Waymo offered paid rides and a $126 billion equity layer under a loan worth about 4% of it [36]. Firmus offered 46 built megawatts and $51 million of revenue against a $30 billion price [18][17][14]. If Firmus raises its round largely as debt from new lenders at a valuation near $30 billion, credit will have funded a pipeline that public equity buyers declined, and the distinction drawn here would not hold.
What to watch
- The price and mix of Firmus's $2 billion to $3 billion private round: whether it lands nearer the $30 billion IPO mark or the $10.5 billion August mark, and how much of it is debt.
- Whether Nvidia, or any investor not already on Firmus's register, joins the private round.
- Waymo's progress toward 1 million paid rides a week across 20 cities by year-end, and any findings from the NHTSA and NTSB investigations.
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Claim ledger
Ranked by verification strength, evidence, and original report placement.
- [1]
Waymo closed a $5 billion term loan on Thursday, the Alphabet-owned autonomous vehicle company's first debt financing.
- [2]
PIMCO, Blackstone and Sixth Street took lead syndicated roles; Capital Group, Loomis Sayles and T. Rowe Price joined as significant participants; Apollo, Blue Owl, Diameter Capital Partners, Franklin Templeton, Fidelity Management & Research, HPS Investment Partners and Oaktree rounded out the lender group; Goldman Sachs was sole lead bookrunner.
- [3]
Waymo began negotiating the debt financing in early September, at that point targeting more than $3 billion; the final size grew to $5 billion.
- [4]
Lenders were set to receive a spread of more than 500 basis points above the benchmark rate, with the debt expected to carry no credit rating.
- [5]
The Waymo loan priced at 5.25 percentage points over the benchmark rate, according to people familiar with the matter cited by Bloomberg.
- [6]
"Our strong momentum has enabled us to complement our equity financing with debt, providing additional financial flexibility to strengthen our balance sheet," Steve Fieler, Waymo's chief financial officer, wrote in a blog post.
- [7]
In February Waymo raised $16 billion in equity at a $126 billion valuation; Alphabet supported the round and maintained its position as majority investor.
- [8]
Waymo has been targeting 1 million paid rides per week across 20 cities worldwide by the end of this year, up from more than 500,000 fare-paying trips per week across 14 cities as of early September.
- [9]
Waymo had roughly 4,000 vehicles in domestic service as of May.
- [10]
NHTSA opened an investigation into how Waymo robotaxis behave around school buses and another after a Waymo hit a child near a school in Santa Monica; the child suffered minor injuries. The NTSB opened its own investigation into the school bus incidents earlier this year.
- [11]
Quartz said Waymo's move into debt markets follows a pattern seen with other ride-hailing companies: Uber made its debt market debut in 2016, securing $1.15 billion from leveraged loan investors ahead of its IPO.
- [12]
Firmus Grid withdrew its planned IPO on the Australian Securities Exchange on Friday, citing market volatility and conditions.
- [13]
"Having considered recent market volatility and prevailing market conditions, the board determined that the terms on which the offer could proceed would not appropriately reflect the strength of the company's business and long-term growth outlook," Firmus said.
- [14]
The Firmus IPO would have valued the company at US$30 billion, up from US$10.5 billion less than three months earlier.
- [15]
Firmus had reportedly planned to raise $5 billion in its IPO, pricing shares at A$11 apiece, which would have made it the second-largest new share sale in Australia's history; the IPO valued the company at around $30.6 billion.
- [16]
In August Firmus announced a $2 billion funding round backed by Nvidia, Coatue Management, Blackstone and Jane Street, bringing its valuation to over $10.5 billion.
- [17]
Part of the difficulty was convincing potential investors of the steep increase in market value for a company without a proven track record that had revenue of US$51 million in the 2026 financial year.
- [18]
Firmus has a pipeline of 912 megawatts, of which only 46MW has been built, according to investor documents seen by Bloomberg.
- [19]
"Investors just weren't prepared to pay a sky-high price up front for capacity that's still largely on the drawing board," eToro lead analyst for APAC and Middle East Josh Gilbert said. "The timing hasn't helped either, with higher yields lifting borrowing costs and shrinking what investors will pay today for earnings that sit years down the track."
- [20]
UniSuper Chief Investment Officer John Pearce said in an investor update published Thursday that while the company had a compelling story, its valuation was harder to justify: "So much has to go right to justify the valuation."
- [21]
Some investors were concerned about the valuation and the prospect of existing shareholders selling into the market shortly after any debut, according to Bloomberg.
- [22]
Firmus is exploring a private funding round of $2 billion to $3 billion; it and its advisers are holding discussions with current investors, options could blend equity and debt, and it is unclear whether Nvidia would participate, according to Bloomberg.
- [23]
Firmus had aimed to raise about $5 billion in the IPO; existing investors had already planned to contribute roughly half of that amount, according to Bloomberg.
- [24]
Firmus's business model hinges on a steady influx of fresh capital.
- [25]
Nearly US$500 billion of new debt has been priced this year to fund AI infrastructure, while rising financing needs and interest rates have driven up credit-insurance costs and weakened tech debt performance.
- [26]
Firmus announced agreements with Meta last month to provide GPU computing capacity at its AI data centers in Southeast Asia.
- [27]
"Firmus will now pursue capital from the private markets and consider alternative public and private market options," Firmus said in a statement.
- [28]
Firmus secured $505 million led by Coatue Management in April, followed by $2 billion pledged by a group that included Nvidia and Blackstone, with Jane Street also among its backers.
- [29]
Firmus's IPO valuation was about 2.9 times its August private valuation.
- [30]
At $30 billion, Firmus would have been valued at about 590 times its FY2026 revenue.
- [31]
About 5% of Firmus's 912 MW pipeline has been built.
- [32]
The IPO valuation came to roughly $650 million per built megawatt.
- [33]
Waymo's loan grew by as much as two-thirds over its opening target.
- [34]
The 5.25-point spread on $5 billion is about $262.5 million a year before the benchmark rate.
- [35]
Firmus's FY2026 revenue was about a fifth of Waymo's annual spread cost.
- [36]
The $5 billion loan is about 4% of Waymo's $126 billion February valuation; with no prior debt, the mark would have to fall roughly 96% before the loan exceeded it.
- [37]
Existing Firmus investors had planned about $2.5 billion of the IPO, leaving about $2.5 billion to come from new buyers.
- [38]
A $2-3 billion private round is 40% to 60% of the $5 billion IPO target.
- [39]
Firmus has 866 megawatts of pipeline still to build.
- [40]
Waymo's loan is about 4.3 times Uber's 2016 leveraged loan.
Sources & coverage · 5 publishers
The reporting this story was synthesized from, earliest first. Every link goes to the original.
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